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<td><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/apple-tree-pruning/bramley-apples-and-bramley-apple-tree-pruning.html" target="_blank" style="color:#153aa4;text-decoration:none;">Bramley Apples and Bramley Apple Tree Pruning</a></td>
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<p>The subject of making cider from Bramley apples and how to set about pruning Bramley apple trees keeps coming up. Here’s a recent video from Hermitage Farm which bemoans the lack of current demand for Bramley apples. It’s perhaps surprising, since Bramleys are the best known and frequently the only known variety of cooking apples in the UK, but it must be the whole concept of cooking with apples which is falling into disuse heaven forbid.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/apple-tree-pruning/bramley-apples-and-bramley-apple-tree-pruning.html" target="_blank"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<h3><a href="http://www.thehermitagefarm.com/" target="_blank">Hermitage Farm</a>‘s Bramley Apples</h3>
<p>Here we are, five miles north of Hereford, in the middle of the organic Bramley apple harvest and the sad thing is that the bottom has dropped out of the Bramley apple market in the UK.</p>
<p>We are seeing Bramley apple trees being grubbed out, but what we need is a high profile celebrity chef to re-educate the British public about how to use Bramley cooking apples.</p>
<p>It has to be said though, that the French don’t even have a word for “cooking apples” there are many French varieties of apples and you can either eat them or cook with them. Or make cider with them of course!</p>
<p>Some advice about pruning Bramley Apple trees and grafting:</p>
<p>If you have a large Bramley apple tree, maybe up to 70 years old and it’s taking up a lot of space where you might prefer to have several other different varieties of apple trees growing, then you might want to consider grafting or top working the old Bramley tree after a severe prune but there are limitations to what can be done in such circumstances. For example it may seem a good idea to graft several different types of scions onto the same family tree or stock, but this can cause problems with differentiating growth rates of the various grafts, and also necessitate removing as many as possible of the original Bramley buds when they come through in spring, which is hardly practical on a large tree. A very large very old tree may present some challenges and you certainly<br /> should leave ‘nurse branches’ but it is achievable, and if the tree is<br /> lively you may be surprised how strongly the scions grow way.</p>
<p>Top working or grafting is not so difficult really, but the timing of the various prunes is actually quite crucial.</p>
<p>You need to cut the desired type of scion wood in late winter one season, then store it carefully, and do the grafting onto the old Bramley apple tree sometime between bud burst and blossom time. It’s well worth practicing first on some less valuable trees in order to make mistakes, learn, and then get the right cuts that work for your orchard.</p>
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<p> Bramley Apple Tree</p>
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<h2>Possibly Related Cider Posts:</h2>
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<li><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/orchards/pruning-the-bramley-apple-tree.html" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Pruning the Bramley apple tree</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/apple-tree-pruning/pruning-the-bramley-apple-tree-part-2.html" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Pruning the Bramley Apple Tree – part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/apple-tree-pruning/fruitwise-guide-to-grafting-over-an-apple-tree.html" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Fruitwise guide to grafting over an apple tree</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/apple-tree-pruning/pruning-a-neglected-apple-tree.html" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Pruning a neglected apple tree</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/orchards/apple-tree-grafting-the-saddle-graft.html" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Apple tree grafting – the saddle graft</a></li>
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		<title>29 new varieties of English cider apples</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new apple varieties are Lizzy; Prince William; Amelia; Amanda; Jenny; Hastings; Connie; Helen&#8217;s Apple; Three Counties; Jane; Tina; Early Bird; Vicky; Naomi; Nicky; Angela; Gilly; Willy; Joanna; Maggie; Hannah; Jean; Sally; Fiona; Shamrock; Tracey; Eleni; Betty and Debbie. New cider apple varieties<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=95&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>The new apple varieties are Lizzy; Prince William; Amelia; Amanda; Jenny; Hastings; Connie; Helen&#8217;s Apple; Three Counties; Jane; Tina; Early Bird; Vicky; Naomi; Nicky; Angela; Gilly; Willy; Joanna; Maggie; Hannah; Jean; Sally; Fiona; Shamrock; Tracey; Eleni; Betty and Debbie.</p>
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<p>New <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_apple">cider apple</a> varieties</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Done Mike Henney of Henney&#039;s Cider for being a finalist. BEST DRINKS PRODUCER Mike Henney (Henney&#039;s Cider) Mike Henney started making cider as a hobby in his airing cupboard in 1996. He now produces over 200,000 gallons of his high-quality product. He maintains traditional methods of production, using genuine cider apple varieties from local [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=94&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<h3>Well Done Mike Henney of <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Henney%27s_Cider_Co.">Henney&#039;s Cider</a> for being a finalist.<br /></h3>
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<h3>BEST DRINKS PRODUCER</h3>
<p> <strong>Mike Henney (Henney&#039;s Cider)</strong></p>
<p> Mike Henney started making cider as a hobby in his airing cupboard in 1996. He now produces over 200,000 gallons of his high-quality product. He maintains traditional methods of production, using genuine cider apple varieties from local Herefordshire growers. His four varieties of cider are available in leading supermarkets. </p>
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<p> 							 							 Results will be announced on <strong>November 24th</strong> at the <strong>BBC Good Food Show</strong> in Birmingham. </p>
<p> The Awards programme will be on Radio 4 at 9am on <strong>November 26th.</strong></p>
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		<title>Recipe: Pork Chops with Cider and Apples</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the American version of Pork with cider and apples. Pork Chops with Cider and Apples Makes 4 servings 1 tablespoon olive oil 4 center-cut boneless pork chops, 6-7 ounces each 3/4 teaspoon salt Freshly ground pepper 2 shallots, minced 2 cups hard or sweet cider 1 cup dried apple slices 3 tablespoons whipping [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=93&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div class="posterous_bookmarklet_entry"> This is the American version of <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/cider-recipe/pork-with-cider-and-apple.html">Pork with cider</a> and apples.<br />
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<p><strong>Pork Chops with Cider and Apples</strong></p>
<p><strong>Makes 4 servings</strong></p>
<p>1 tablespoon olive oil</p>
<p>4 center-cut boneless pork chops, 6-7 ounces each</p>
<p>3/4 teaspoon salt</p>
<p>Freshly ground pepper</p>
<p>2 shallots, minced</p>
<p>2 cups hard or sweet cider</p>
<p>1 cup dried apple slices</p>
<p>3 tablespoons whipping cream</p>
<p>2 teaspoons spicy brown mustard</p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> Heat olive oil in a large skillet over medium-high heat; season chops with 1/2 teaspoon of the salt and pepper to taste. Cook chops in skillet, turning once, until browned, and almost cooked through. Remove from skillet.</p>
<p><strong>2.</strong> Add shallots to skillet; cook over medium heat until translucent, 2 minutes. Add cider; heat to a simmer. Add apple slices; cook until apples are soft and cider is reduced by half, about 10 minutes. Stir in cream, mustard and remaining 1/4 teaspoon of the salt; cook until slightly thickened. Taste sauce for seasoning. Return chops to skillet; heat until chops are cooked through.</p>
<p>Nutrition information</p>
<p>Per serving: 441 calories, 46 percent of calories from fat, 23 g fat, 8 g saturated fat, 105 mg cholesterol, 31 g carbohydrates, 28 g protein, 729 mg sodium, 2 g fiber</p>
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<p>The basic method is sound, and you can make variations with different types of cider, cuts of pork and whether or not to add cream for example. Seems a lot of people have discovered how well pork and cider go together, but there&#8217;s alwas someone else looking for a recipe. Do you like following recipes or just cook pork and cider with the best ingredients you can find?</p>
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		<title>Vintage Apple Fruit Crusher Scatter For Cider Making</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a vintage fruit crushing machine, mostly useful as an item of interest although it&#8217;s likely you could just about get it to work as an apple scratter for making cider via cgi.ebay.co.uk When you first start looking up information on how to make cider you may come across machines like these, but they&#8217;re [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=90&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div class="posterous_bookmarklet_entry"> This is a vintage fruit crushing machine, mostly useful as an item of interest although it&#8217;s likely you could just about get it to work as an apple scratter for <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/How_to_make_cider">making cider</a>     <img src="http://ukcider.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/media_httpiebayimgcom_ioedo-scaled500.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" width="300" height="225" />
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<p>When you first start looking up information on <a href="http://howtomakecider.co.uk/">how to make cider</a> you may come across machines like these, but they&#8217;re more like collectors&#8217; items really. You can start off with something easier and smaller.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A picture of Frank Naish from Naish Cider which James Russel has used as an illustration in his Naked Guide to Cider Book via jamesrussellontheweb.blogspot.com We need to document all of these old cidermakers while they are still with us.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=86&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div class="posterous_bookmarklet_entry"> A picture of Frank Naish from <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Naish%27s_Cider">Naish Cider</a> which James Russel has used as an  illustration in his <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/books/cider-making-books.html">Naked Guide to Cider Book</a>     <img src="http://ukcider.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/media_http2bpblogspot_nebhs-scaled500.jpg?w=373&#038;h=249" width="373" height="249" />
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<p>We need to document all of these old cidermakers while they are still with us.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Secondary legislation has already been introduced to increase the tax on cheap, strong ciders. This legislation will change the definition of cider by introducing a minimum juice content to qualify to pay duty at the cider rates. Products with low juice content are now taxed at the more appropriate made-wine rate. via telegraph.co.uk The government [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=85&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<blockquote class="posterous_medium_quote">Secondary legislation has already been introduced to increase the tax on   cheap, strong ciders. This legislation will change the definition of cider   by introducing a minimum juice content to qualify to pay duty at the cider   rates. Products with low juice content are now taxed at the more appropriate   made-wine rate.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The government seem to have got the idea that introducing a minimum juice content will reduce the amount of cheap alcohol on sale, but medical charities are pointing out that the current tax bands are not sufficiently related to alcohol content at all and there remains some serious anomolies. A minimum juice content for cider is a good idea but at 35% this is laughable. It should be more like 85%  which is the figure for real cider and anything less shouldn&#8217;t really be called cider at all</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[          ukcider         Watered Down Cider Definition August 27, 2010 at 12:17 PM   The new definition of cider for customs and excise purposes is to allow cider and perry to be sold as such with as little as 35% juice content, and possibly even less if the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=84&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>The new definition of cider for customs and excise purposes is to allow cider and perry to be sold as such with as little as 35% juice content, and possibly even less if the original juice is high gravity.</p>
<p>The Statutory Instrument can be viewed from the Office of Public Sector Information site at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2010/pdf/uksi_20101914_en.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2010/pdf/uksi_20101914_en.pdf</a></p>
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<p>2. In section 1 of the Alcoholic Liquor Duties Act 1979 (the alcoholic liquors dutiable under that Act), in subsection (6) (definition of “cider”)(b), for the words after “section 55B(1) below,” substitute— “cider (or perry)—<br /> (a)	which is of a strength exceeding 1.2 per cent but less than 8.5 per cent,<br /> (b) which is obtained from the fermentation of apple or pear juice, without the addition at any time of—<br /> (i) anyalcoholicliquor,or (ii) any liquor or substance which   communicates colour or flavour,<br /> other than such as the Commissioners may allow as appearing to them to be necessary to make cider (or perry),<br /> (c) the pre-fermentation mixture for which satisfies the pre-fermentation juice requirement, and<br /> (d)	which satisfies the final product juice requirement. For the purposes of this subsection—<br /> (i) “the pre-fermentation mixture” for cider (or perry) means the mixture of juice and other ingredients in which the fermentation from which the cider (or perry) is obtained takes place, as that mixture exists immediately before the fermentation process commences,<br /> (ii) if the cider (or perry) consists of a blend of two or more liquors constituting cider (or perry), references in this subsection to the pre-fermentation mixture are to the pre-fermentation mixtures for each of those liquors taken as a whole,<br /> (iii) the pre-fermentation mixture for the cider (or perry) satisfies the pre- fermentation juice requirement if the volume of apple or pear juice of a gravity(a) of at least 1033 degrees included in the mixture is a volume not less than 35 per cent of the volume of the pre-fermentation mixture,<br /> (iv) the cider (or perry) satisfies the final product juice requirement if the aggregate of the volume of apple or pear juice of a gravity of at least 1033 degrees included in the pre-fermentation mixture and the volume of any such apple or pear juice added after fermentation commences is a volume not less than 35 per cent of the volume of the cider (or perry), and<br /> (v) the volume of any juice, the pre-fermentation mixture and the cider (or perry) is to be computed as at 20°C.”.</p>
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<p>I don’t really care whether the exact interpretation of this means that Industrial cider makers can get away with making cider at only 35% juice content, or maybe even quite a bit less than that. The very idea of condoning such low juice industrial concoctions as genuine cider and perry for the purposes of profiting from the considerable tax advantages compared with other acoholic drinks is to be condemned. </p>
<p>Accepting the definition of cider with only 35% juice content can only be a setback for the real cider making movement, and anybody supporting it is deliberately conniving with big industrial cider makers to continue to deceive cider drinkers into believing the big brand ciders advertising lies. </p>
<p>About seven years ago, there was a prolonged and open discussion in the craft cider community to arrive at a definition of real cider which came out with the following:</p>
<blockquote class="posterous_medium_quote"><p>Real cider is the product of fermenting fresh apple juice.</p>
<p>The amount of apple juice which went into the final product must be between 85 and 100% and should be clearly stated on the container it is sold in or dispensed from.</p>
<p>No artificial sweeteners, flavourings or colourings are permitted.</p>
<p>( For real perry substitute pear juice ) ukcider 30/11/2003 </p>
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<p>The new government definition of cider at 35% juice for tax purposes will permanently legitimise the practice of creating low quality, low juice drink concoctions in which most of the alcohol is derived from corn syrup, and then selling it with the image of unsullied natural orchard scenes. </p>
<p>The big question many real cider makers and drinkers will be asking is why is this legislation being supported by the NACM and their apologists within the craft cider movement?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice rant from Rhiannon about the use of the term pear cider for a drink that isn&#8217;t really perry anyway. Then she goes on to review a bunch of products that are almost all examples of the industrial type of drink that are responsible for muddying the waters around the whole concept of cider [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ukcider.wordpress.com&amp;blog=2975317&amp;post=83&amp;subd=ukcider&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice rant from Rhiannon about the use of the term pear cider for a drink that isn&#8217;t really perry anyway. Then she goes on to review  a bunch of products that are almost all examples of the industrial type of drink that are responsible for muddying the waters around the whole concept of cider and perry as we knew it. There&#8217;s promise of better lines to come in part 2.<br />
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<p><a href='http://rhisfoodieworld.wordpress.com/?p=135' title='Rhi&#039;s Foodie World'><img src="http://rhisfoodieworld.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ciders.jpg?w=372&#038;h=100&#038;h=100" width="372" height="100" alt="Cider and Perry Tasting Part 1" class="align-left thumbnail alignleft left" style="max-width:100%;" /></a> Before I even begin I am going to have a short rant about the term “pear cider” which has become so popular of late.  I hate it.  There is already a term to describe a cider made from pears, it’s PERRY!!!!  The term perry seems to have got a bit of a bad reputation thanks to such classy beverages as Lambrini and Charlemange, but until the wonderful cider revival/revolution came along in the last few years cider didn’t have such a great reputation &#8230; <a href='http://rhisfoodieworld.wordpress.com/?p=135' title='Rhi&#039;s Foodie World'>Read More</a></p>
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